Shall I Take Gwen to Fight Charr? - Guild Wars Forums

TopGun · May 09, 2005, 08:37 PM // 20:37

That dude in the starting city wants me to leave everything behind... do I take Gwen with me? Will she follow? Is there anything important I should bear in mind before leaving? Thanks.

Sideways · May 09, 2005, 08:40 PM // 20:40

She won't go with you, she only follows you through the hillside area outside Ascalon (pre-searing).

If you're thinking of going to the Academy, make damned sure you've done all your 'skill quests'.

I spent about 10 hours in Pre-Searing with my W/Mo, did every single quest I could find (there may be more... I found a LOT of the map was explorable, and probably skipped a few spots), and I finally left when I was lvl 8.

Jana · May 09, 2005, 08:40 PM // 20:40

When you enter the Academy... I can only say, "Welcome to the real world."

There is no turning back

. Also, get as much xp and salvagable goods and gold as you can... several years of inflation can really add up. Also, yes, do the missions to get the starter skills, else you will have to spend skill points to get them in the future.

Gwen is loveable, but it is time to let go... you never know when she may turn up again

Jana

TopGun · May 09, 2005, 08:41 PM // 20:41

So you can't gain ANY skills at all after you go? I still have a lot to do, I gather.

Ranja123 · May 09, 2005, 08:41 PM // 20:41

You are thrust into a cataclysmic event, by yourself with Gwenn no where to be found.

This is the start of gaining skills etc and the game.

Jana · May 09, 2005, 08:42 PM // 20:42

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Originally Posted by TopGun

So you can't gain ANY skills at all after you go? I still have a lot to do, I gather.

I edited later, but you can still get the skills, but if you get them after you leave, you have to pay for them using skill points you accumulate.

Jana

Witchfinder General · May 09, 2005, 08:44 PM // 20:44

No you get ALOT more skills after leaving and going to the academy. In fact you only get a tiny fraction beforehand.

And the ones you don't get pre-searing you can get post-seraing by buying them (10 gold and 1 skill point) or the first couple of quests will usually give them as a reward.

You should leave for the academy with about 12 skills depending on your primary secondary.

After that you will discover/earn/buy dozens more.

Sideways · May 09, 2005, 08:44 PM // 20:44

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Originally Posted by TopGun

So you can't gain ANY skills at all after you go? I still have a lot to do, I gather.

No No No, you misunderstand.

You can ONLY get 6 primary skills and 4 secondary skills, BEFORE you go to the Academy. All we're saying is; "Don't miss any of those 10 skills... you'll need them".

No, there are 150 skills per set, primary and secondary, and the remaining 144/146 are all AFTER the Academy. :P

And as Jana said... welcome to the real world.

Say goodbye to trees, and general greenery for quite some time though. It's called 'The Searing' for a reason.

TopGun · May 09, 2005, 08:47 PM // 20:47

I always loved the way the leaves cast shadows.

Let's see, atm I have 6 Necro skills, 3 warrior skills, that's nine... so there's a skill floating around there somewhere, huh?

Wait, you mean I get another one hundered and forty some-odd skills AFTER the nine I have now?

Witchfinder General · May 09, 2005, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Not 144 but look here to see how many

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill.php

And pre-searing you can get hammer skills and axe skills on top of the sword skills you have, before going to the academy.

Jana · May 09, 2005, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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Originally Posted by TopGun

Wait, you mean I get another one hundered and forty some-odd skills AFTER the nine I have now?

OMG yes. Hundreds, and I mean HUNDREDS.

Fortunetly, most you can get through quests, but you can always buy them (using gold and skill points) from specific trainers if you are in a rush for something specific. Now getting to some of these trainers may be a tad tricky

.

Jana

Sideways · May 09, 2005, 09:00 PM // 21:00

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Originally Posted by TopGun

I always loved the way the leaves cast shadows.

Let's see, atm I have 6 Necro skills, 3 warrior skills, that's nine... so there's a skill floating around there somewhere, huh?

Wait, you mean I get another one hundered and forty some-odd skills AFTER the nine I have now?

Well there are approx 75 skills PER Profession... so you have around 140+ skills left to find, basically.

I don't know how you wound-up with 3 warrior skills... that's just wierd. Since you are a warrior secondary, you should've had two different warrior trainers in Pre-Searing Ascalon, each of which gives you two skills, for a total of 4.

Then you had the initial Guard/trainer to give you your first two necro skills, and the two Necros out in Ascalon to give you an additional 4 (for 6 total, which you have).

If you do only have 9 total (really really strange) then don't worry about the one you're missing... you can pick it up later from a skills trainer.

If you're around lvl 6 or so, I'd say it's high time to visit the Academy, and see what happens!

Ramus · May 09, 2005, 09:00 PM // 21:00

Gwen gets eaten by a hungry charr. ;D

Jana · May 09, 2005, 09:03 PM // 21:03

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Originally Posted by Ramus

Gwen gets eaten by a hungry charr. ;D

Close...

Did you by chance save that Tapestry she gave you?

LOL. Ok, no more spoilers. You'll just have to find out on your own.

Jana

Witchfinder General · May 09, 2005, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Warrior secondaries get two sword skills from the first guy you talk to near the nec and monk trainers

then you can get the hammer and axe skills from the two trainers in the same place (the estate)

2 axe and 1 hammer?

TopGun · May 09, 2005, 09:10 PM // 21:10

I seem to be missing Frenzy... I only visited one trainer, he was in Green Hills, gave me 3 skills.

Holy shit that's a lot of skills, WoW gave me around 20...

Witchfinder General · May 09, 2005, 09:12 PM // 21:12

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Originally Posted by TopGun

I seem to be missing Frenzy... I only visited one trainer, he was in Green Hills, gave me 3 skills.

Holy shit that's a lot of skills, WoW gave me around 20...

I think only primaries get frenzy pre-academy.

There are two more trainers inside baradin's estate in green hills that will teach you a knockdown hamemr skill, an extra damage axe skill and an pbaoe axe skill

Jana · May 09, 2005, 09:14 PM // 21:14

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Originally Posted by TopGun

Holy shit that's a lot of skills, WoW gave me around 20...

Well put

. That's what I thought too when I saw it and THEN when I realized I had to pick 8 out of 140+... I mean sheesh, talk about a dilemma.

Of course, one can always go back and try new sets and combos and see what works well and what doesn't - knowing full well that the odds of anyone having the exact same 8 skills setup as you is very slim.

Jana

TopGun · May 09, 2005, 09:39 PM // 21:39

Having to pick skills, as much of a dillema as it is, makes this game a LOT more strategic than a typical MMO...

And to anyone who says this isn't an MMO... well, you're wrong, this is an MMO that has come up with anti-gank systems, no monthly fees, and no trudging through long stretches of bland terrain.

KraXed112 · May 10, 2005, 11:56 PM // 23:56

I'm still in Presear phase.. and i already got 12 skills am i suppose to look for more? and still do all the quest b4 goin out to the "real world" lvl 8 .. and quite a few more quest to do.

May 09, 2005, 08:37 PM // 20:37	#1
TopGun Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	Shall I Take Gwen to Fight Charr? That dude in the starting city wants me to leave everything behind... do I take Gwen with me? Will she follow? Is there anything important I should bear in mind before leaving? Thanks.

May 09, 2005, 08:40 PM // 20:40	#2
Sideways Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Calgary, AB - Soviet Canuckistan	She won't go with you, she only follows you through the hillside area outside Ascalon (pre-searing). If you're thinking of going to the Academy, make damned sure you've done all your 'skill quests'. I spent about 10 hours in Pre-Searing with my W/Mo, did every single quest I could find (there may be more... I found a LOT of the map was explorable, and probably skipped a few spots), and I finally left when I was lvl 8.

May 09, 2005, 08:40 PM // 20:40	#3
Jana Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Knights of the Silver Flame Profession: Mo/Me	When you enter the Academy... I can only say, "Welcome to the real world." There is no turning back . Also, get as much xp and salvagable goods and gold as you can... several years of inflation can really add up. Also, yes, do the missions to get the starter skills, else you will have to spend skill points to get them in the future. Gwen is loveable, but it is time to let go... you never know when she may turn up again Jana

May 09, 2005, 08:41 PM // 20:41	#4
TopGun Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	So you can't gain ANY skills at all after you go? I still have a lot to do, I gather.

May 09, 2005, 08:41 PM // 20:41	#5
Ranja123 Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005	You are thrust into a cataclysmic event, by yourself with Gwenn no where to be found. This is the start of gaining skills etc and the game.

May 09, 2005, 08:44 PM // 20:44	#7
Witchfinder General Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	No you get ALOT more skills after leaving and going to the academy. In fact you only get a tiny fraction beforehand. And the ones you don't get pre-searing you can get post-seraing by buying them (10 gold and 1 skill point) or the first couple of quests will usually give them as a reward. You should leave for the academy with about 12 skills depending on your primary secondary. After that you will discover/earn/buy dozens more.

May 09, 2005, 08:47 PM // 20:47	#9
TopGun Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	I always loved the way the leaves cast shadows. Let's see, atm I have 6 Necro skills, 3 warrior skills, that's nine... so there's a skill floating around there somewhere, huh? Wait, you mean I get another one hundered and forty some-odd skills AFTER the nine I have now?

May 09, 2005, 08:54 PM // 20:54	#10
Witchfinder General Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	Not 144 but look here to see how many http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill.php And pre-searing you can get hammer skills and axe skills on top of the sword skills you have, before going to the academy.

May 09, 2005, 09:00 PM // 21:00	#13
Ramus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Guild: Zero Tolerance Profession: W/Mo	Gwen gets eaten by a hungry charr. ;D

May 09, 2005, 09:09 PM // 21:09	#15
Witchfinder General Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	Warrior secondaries get two sword skills from the first guy you talk to near the nec and monk trainers then you can get the hammer and axe skills from the two trainers in the same place (the estate) 2 axe and 1 hammer?

May 09, 2005, 09:10 PM // 21:10	#16
TopGun Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	I seem to be missing Frenzy... I only visited one trainer, he was in Green Hills, gave me 3 skills. Holy shit that's a lot of skills, WoW gave me around 20...

May 09, 2005, 09:39 PM // 21:39	#19
TopGun Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	Having to pick skills, as much of a dillema as it is, makes this game a LOT more strategic than a typical MMO... And to anyone who says this isn't an MMO... well, you're wrong, this is an MMO that has come up with anti-gank systems, no monthly fees, and no trudging through long stretches of bland terrain.

May 10, 2005, 11:56 PM // 23:56	#20
KraXed112 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	I'm still in Presear phase.. and i already got 12 skills am i suppose to look for more? and still do all the quest b4 goin out to the "real world" lvl 8 .. and quite a few more quest to do.